ATTENTION!!! PLEASE READ!!! VERY IMPORTANT!!!
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Should we have a money system?
Re: ATTENTION!!! PLEASE READ!!! VERY IMPORTANT!!!
Alright, I made the category and the forums. I put Team Blaze on there, but for some reason it isn't showing, so unless you know how to do it Mirage, get Kaji to make it show up. The reason I why I didn't put groups like Towa and ANBU in separate forums is because they belong to a village, and they can just put their banking information in the fourm of the village they belong to.
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Alright, then it just might be this school computer to me not being able to see so well.
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OK, we will have the trial in January. I will be putting up stuff for it between now and then. So do not be alarmed if you see new things popping up. Just ignore them lol.
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Okay, I went to post and got dragged away from the computer DX now is the first chance I've really gotten.
It's a good concept, and seems good at first glance, but you also gotta think about popularity and practicality. I get limiting people's equipment, but amount of equipment per person is really dependent on the char and specialties, if someone created a char that used genjutsu, he should have much less equipment than a weapon specialist. Also, I've seen a few sites die because they introduced money systems, it scares people away, they want to have fun, not constantly be annoyed because they don't have enough money to buy their next jutsu, puppet, or sword.
I personally fear money systems after seeing like 5 sites die because the admins decided to introduce money systems once they had a good number of members, and half of the members left and new members stopped coming. They'd try to bring people back, and remove the money system, but people just wouldn't join. As the site gets bigger, the people that aren't set to this site will be your member base, and knowing people that left or saw a money system and changed their minds about joining wont be good.
I wont lie, I personally also absolutely HATE money systems, and probably won't create any more char's here once one's up. I won't leave though. Just thought I'd put this out so people would have a reason to harass me.
(no, I'm not trying to scare you out of making a money system, I've been accused of that before... <.< (stupid ignorant admin did that once and his site died then shortly after he apologized XD) I'm just saying this from my experience, and if you decide to make a money system then I'll respect that. I've just joined here, and you don't know me, but you can trust me when I say I DON'T want this site to not pick up more members.)
PS: A 'trial system' is a good idea since the votes are fairly even, but just be careful with it.
It's a good concept, and seems good at first glance, but you also gotta think about popularity and practicality. I get limiting people's equipment, but amount of equipment per person is really dependent on the char and specialties, if someone created a char that used genjutsu, he should have much less equipment than a weapon specialist. Also, I've seen a few sites die because they introduced money systems, it scares people away, they want to have fun, not constantly be annoyed because they don't have enough money to buy their next jutsu, puppet, or sword.
I personally fear money systems after seeing like 5 sites die because the admins decided to introduce money systems once they had a good number of members, and half of the members left and new members stopped coming. They'd try to bring people back, and remove the money system, but people just wouldn't join. As the site gets bigger, the people that aren't set to this site will be your member base, and knowing people that left or saw a money system and changed their minds about joining wont be good.
I wont lie, I personally also absolutely HATE money systems, and probably won't create any more char's here once one's up. I won't leave though. Just thought I'd put this out so people would have a reason to harass me.
(no, I'm not trying to scare you out of making a money system, I've been accused of that before... <.< (stupid ignorant admin did that once and his site died then shortly after he apologized XD) I'm just saying this from my experience, and if you decide to make a money system then I'll respect that. I've just joined here, and you don't know me, but you can trust me when I say I DON'T want this site to not pick up more members.)
PS: A 'trial system' is a good idea since the votes are fairly even, but just be careful with it.
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I want to try it at least. I think its a good idea, and I've always wanted to at least try it. Money brings so much more RPing than training, fighting, getting stronger, and killing people. It's a never ending cycle that most RP sites go through, and if they are small like us, it just gets more boring and boring. We can try it.
I don't think you have to charge for items, and to make characters, that might have to be something that gets cut out. Lets just leave the money till AFTER you make a character. You can buy jutsu, but if you make a jutsu from your own mind I don't think that should come out of your account if you just started. Maybe for every 5 jutsu you make, two of them you should pay for.
Anyway its a trial.....and I hope it goes good.
I don't think you have to charge for items, and to make characters, that might have to be something that gets cut out. Lets just leave the money till AFTER you make a character. You can buy jutsu, but if you make a jutsu from your own mind I don't think that should come out of your account if you just started. Maybe for every 5 jutsu you make, two of them you should pay for.
Anyway its a trial.....and I hope it goes good.
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Sorry for the double post.....but....I totally made all the village accounts forums so people could post their own accounts in topics....but if you want to just have an overall topic belonging to the village or group, thats cool with me.
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Before the trial is set, I believe there needs to be a manual and guidline rules set out so everyone is on the same page. Otherwise the trial is doomed to fail, and I realy want this system implemented on the site. You need to treat the trial like it is the real deal even though it may not. It's kind of like if you are just trying a girl out to see if you might want to date her. To have a good chance, you should act like you do want to date her, even if you are unsure if it is going to happen or not, just to help yourself out.
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it's a good idea now i look at it for a second time
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Its reduced to just village accounts. Everytime you do a successfull mission your village gets money. If you village gets destroyed who ever destroyed it gets that money and becomes richer. Its that easy....
We will get more complex with it later on. It's gonna be small for now.
We will get more complex with it later on. It's gonna be small for now.
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A question... has this money system already happened?? I can't remember... or think or whatever. I been a bit... not myself it seems... so I haven't been on the forum much at all since it started, which is rather appalling to be honest. A lot of you must think I am a crap admin or a crap Kage... but whatever.
Ok you may have just added enough on here to make me think... ok a Money system doesn't seem as bad as I thought it was. It doesn't seem all that bad, however i am not going to say I agree or disagree with it because as far as i'm concerened, I am keeping my line of thought within a neutral perspective so as to understand the good and the bad ideals of each idea.
As Yosh said, money means power... ok... I want to talk about that. Money is power, yes it is. Within an every day life we watch as we see money hungry people try to overpower everything and make the everyday situation a hell of a lot worse for us to live our lives in.
As long as there is money, there will be people with power. They will pay to stop something from happening. Example... say I see someone commit a murder *unlikely as it is* and they have noticed me, but this person is someone with power snd reputation. Say they come up to me offering me say 100,000 in cash. I'm just going to sit there and go, oh lots of money... sure i'll take it and shut up. No i wouldn't, I'd make sure to tell the ;police what i saw and i'd refuse any money that was being offered to shut me the hell up, because that would be the right thing.
I mean sure that may not happen here, but i dislike people driven by money. If all you think about is the money on here... then what's the point. From my eyes, power hungry, money driven annoyances, are what we don't need. Sure 1 or 2 people... but imagine the whole of NN like that, corrupting each board, with members out there thinking, "wow, these people are driven by money."
Then there are the ones that would be there with the most money and all the villages and pretty much everything. "Oh look at me, I own everything on this site. I am the strongest and the best of NN. No one can do anything without talking to me first now."
In which case I would rather be placed in a prison where i have at least a small amount of freedom of speech rather than have none at all, for that is worse than any prison. And in NN's case, such a thing would appear horrifying for others. I mean what person do you know that wants to go on a forum only to know that there is one person on there that they cannot beat? Because he has control of all the money? because what he sais goes? I don't believe I know of any.
So for the idea of using money to buy the villages and such, I shall slam my foot to the ground and say a huge NO. That cannot happen. It shouldn't happen. That one will just RUIN NN for good.
And before you all say, she doesn't want this money system, Read again from the top. I neither agree nor disagree on the system itself. Some ideas are good... some are bad.
Aki seems to have some good ideas, maybe the betting ide would be good, I mean like open up an RP arena, where people RP to get money, winner gets money, the person who bet on that winner gets money. Most people would be happy. MOST. It seems a feesable idea, which is why I am no going to turn around here and now and say to you guys, No i don't want this money system, because it's full of bullshit, and make the site look bad and bla bla bla.
I am neutral upon the idea. Go for it. I would see it a good idea.
Has it even happened yet for I have yet to see anything of this sort take place. I mean i know i don't do much on the forum, but hell, i do look at threads.
If it hasn't happened yet, i'd say... give it a lot of thought, cover a few more angles and perhaps start a trial run on february for about 2 weeks. If it goes well after 2 weeks, then I think it would be a good idea.
A word to all those that are saying no... First of all, let the trial happen. You don't even know what it is going to do for this site, for we have not tried it at all. How do you know if something is going to work or not if you haven't tried it? Give it a chance. If after a 2 week trial, you still say no and you have a number of reasons for why it doesn't work with you, then fair enough, post that and Yosh and Mirage and whoever else doing so, will have to reconsider this system. After all this is what a trial test is for.
I accidentally clicked on no I don't want it on the vote... sorry... my laptop is being annoying. It sorta crashed so i was clicking on the whole of the screen and next thing i know... i clicked no.. lol. Typical for me lol.
Hope you don't mind me posting this at all. I did try to keep an open mind whilst opening this and considering the options lol. Good day to thee all!!
Ok you may have just added enough on here to make me think... ok a Money system doesn't seem as bad as I thought it was. It doesn't seem all that bad, however i am not going to say I agree or disagree with it because as far as i'm concerened, I am keeping my line of thought within a neutral perspective so as to understand the good and the bad ideals of each idea.
As Yosh said, money means power... ok... I want to talk about that. Money is power, yes it is. Within an every day life we watch as we see money hungry people try to overpower everything and make the everyday situation a hell of a lot worse for us to live our lives in.
As long as there is money, there will be people with power. They will pay to stop something from happening. Example... say I see someone commit a murder *unlikely as it is* and they have noticed me, but this person is someone with power snd reputation. Say they come up to me offering me say 100,000 in cash. I'm just going to sit there and go, oh lots of money... sure i'll take it and shut up. No i wouldn't, I'd make sure to tell the ;police what i saw and i'd refuse any money that was being offered to shut me the hell up, because that would be the right thing.
I mean sure that may not happen here, but i dislike people driven by money. If all you think about is the money on here... then what's the point. From my eyes, power hungry, money driven annoyances, are what we don't need. Sure 1 or 2 people... but imagine the whole of NN like that, corrupting each board, with members out there thinking, "wow, these people are driven by money."
Then there are the ones that would be there with the most money and all the villages and pretty much everything. "Oh look at me, I own everything on this site. I am the strongest and the best of NN. No one can do anything without talking to me first now."
In which case I would rather be placed in a prison where i have at least a small amount of freedom of speech rather than have none at all, for that is worse than any prison. And in NN's case, such a thing would appear horrifying for others. I mean what person do you know that wants to go on a forum only to know that there is one person on there that they cannot beat? Because he has control of all the money? because what he sais goes? I don't believe I know of any.
So for the idea of using money to buy the villages and such, I shall slam my foot to the ground and say a huge NO. That cannot happen. It shouldn't happen. That one will just RUIN NN for good.
And before you all say, she doesn't want this money system, Read again from the top. I neither agree nor disagree on the system itself. Some ideas are good... some are bad.
Aki seems to have some good ideas, maybe the betting ide would be good, I mean like open up an RP arena, where people RP to get money, winner gets money, the person who bet on that winner gets money. Most people would be happy. MOST. It seems a feesable idea, which is why I am no going to turn around here and now and say to you guys, No i don't want this money system, because it's full of bullshit, and make the site look bad and bla bla bla.
I am neutral upon the idea. Go for it. I would see it a good idea.
Has it even happened yet for I have yet to see anything of this sort take place. I mean i know i don't do much on the forum, but hell, i do look at threads.
If it hasn't happened yet, i'd say... give it a lot of thought, cover a few more angles and perhaps start a trial run on february for about 2 weeks. If it goes well after 2 weeks, then I think it would be a good idea.
A word to all those that are saying no... First of all, let the trial happen. You don't even know what it is going to do for this site, for we have not tried it at all. How do you know if something is going to work or not if you haven't tried it? Give it a chance. If after a 2 week trial, you still say no and you have a number of reasons for why it doesn't work with you, then fair enough, post that and Yosh and Mirage and whoever else doing so, will have to reconsider this system. After all this is what a trial test is for.
I accidentally clicked on no I don't want it on the vote... sorry... my laptop is being annoying. It sorta crashed so i was clicking on the whole of the screen and next thing i know... i clicked no.. lol. Typical for me lol.
Hope you don't mind me posting this at all. I did try to keep an open mind whilst opening this and considering the options lol. Good day to thee all!!
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